[lbo-talk] Hayek, was Re: Stalinism (was Eric Hobsbawm)

c b cb31450 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 15 06:44:28 PDT 2012


Wojtek

Shane: "And Uzbekhistan/Kazakhstan and Belarus/Ukraina are, parts of *Russia*? "

[WS:] Jesusfuckingchrist, Shane. Don't you understand what I wrote or you are just playing semantic games? I was talking about centrally planned economies of x-USSR and Eastern Europe. They could not externalize costs because their public sector owned about everything, so they had to absorb them. One can only dump shit on someone else, otherwise one has to absorb it - get it?

That is why they had to deal with so many negative consequences of their industrialization, which the bourgeois "democracies" could conveniently dump on the third world. Why is it so fucking difficult for you to admit this basic fact?

-- Wojtek

^^^^^ CB; Exactly, Wojtek. Not only did it not externalize its industrializing costs to the "peripheral ( circle metaphor again) parts. The Soviet Union treated the Union and the whole socialist bloc as a whole. And the whole performed an insurance function or welfare function for the parts that were less prosperous historically. This affirmative action plan was noted by the American poet Langston Hughes in the 1930's. So, the Soviet Union was an anti-imperialist system, or the negation of the Russian imperialist , prison-house-of-nations.

Oh how the world misses the Soviet Union.



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