[lbo-talk] The effect of drones

// ravi ravi at platosbeard.org
Fri Sep 28 11:25:31 PDT 2012


On Sep 28, 2012, at 2:13 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote:
> The U.S. didn't defeat the Nazis. The Soviets did.
>

I was just going to ask about this. At least the version of history I was taught put the Battle of Stalingrad at the centre of the turnaround/victory and attributed the bulk of the credit to the Soviets (of course we in India had our special relationship with the SU and reasons not to buy too much into the Churchill worship). Which version is truer? It seems beyond question that the Soviets took the brunt of the battle with ~ 20 million dead (9 million or so of that being military).

The other Western meme that I learnt after I left the old country was the story that Stalin struck a deal with Hitler, going against the West — newer investigation seems to show that if at all he did so, that was after his overtures to the West had been rejected. What’s the modern consensus on that?

Apologies for the thread fork,

—ravi



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