[lbo-talk] Do teachers in the US of A make more than an electronics factory worker?

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Sun Sep 30 17:53:28 PDT 2012


Fuck merit pay. Almost all work I have ever done is, in one way or another, team work. Merit pay poisons the work place.

Joanna

----- Original Message ----- WS: Good question. In a socialist society everyone should have a living wage, but theorists also recognize the need for merit pay (cf. Oskar Lange). The problem is that merit is very difficult to measure. I'd say that while this determination is always socially constructed, there should be a limit on pay difference, say maximum wage being no more than three times the minimum wage, which is the situation in Sweden.

Wojtek Sent from my Droid On Sep 30, 2012 6:47 PM, "Carrol Cox" <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:


> I don't know what multiplier needs to be applied to make a real comparison
> with the present, but anyone can make their own estimate.
>
> In 1939 my mother was earning $90 a month for 9 months as a rural
> elementary
> teacher. (Thrree grades -- 3d,4th, 5th in a room; probably 40 students
> total.) In 1943 she found that the $1 a week allowance she planned to
> give
> me when I started 9th grade was too much of a strain.
>
> Carrol
>
> P.S. From a slightly different (and long range) perspective: Why should an
> electronics factory worker make less than a teacher?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:
> lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of Wojtek S
> > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:14 PM
> > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> > Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Do teachers in the US of A make more than an
> electronics
> > factory worker?
> >
> > In the DC area teachers can make $100k if they have lifetime seniority.
> The
> > entry level pay is more like $40k. MD median wage is about $55k. In
> other
> > words, teachers don't make that much given their qualifications and
> unpaid
> > overtime.
> >
> > Wojtek
> > Sent from my Droid
> > On Sep 30, 2012 7:15 AM, "Fernando Cassia" <fcassia at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > There´s something odd about this ad from the Missouri lottery.
> > > (yes, it´s Flash based)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://s0.2mdn.net/ads/richmedia/studio/5166392/22165469_1347471984431_96
> > 0x600.swf
> > >
> > > JPEG screenshot:
> > > http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4/shecouldbeateacher.jpg
> > >
> > > "You could be a millonaire. She could be a teacher...:" (pic of a woman
> > > with a seemingly electronic circuit in her hand at what looks like a
> > > factory background)
> > >
> > > Not to mention the fact that the ´circuit´ she´s ´assembling´ on a
> > > breadboard seems like taken out of a high school "understanding
> > > electronics" project (one led and some caps, and lots of wires ;).
> > >
> > > I thought teachers in the USA weren´t exactly well paid... ;) or
> perhaps
> > > I´ve watched too many episodes of The Simpsons... So do electronics
> factory
> > > workers dream of being teachers?. Or is this a marketing department´s
> dream
> > > of the real world?. ;)
> > >
> > > FC
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