http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/22/exploring-agents-of-influence-in-the-boston-attacks/
On Apr 22, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Jim Farmelant <farmelantj at juno.com> wrote:
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> I am still very curious about the elder brother's contacts with the FBI in 2011. What were those discussions about? As I think most of us here know, one of the principle methods that the FBI has been employing to "fight terrorism" has been to cook up phony terrorist plots then to attempt to recruit gullible people, whom they believe have terrorist propensities, into participating in them. Frequently, the FBI has gone out of its way to provide these alleged would-be terrorists with equipment and materials for the construction of what are supposed to be non-functional bombs. Once these people have participated sufficiently in these phony plots, the FBI will then arrest and charge these would-be terrorists.
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> I cannot help but think that one possible scenario for what might have happened is that the FBI attempted to recruit these brothers into one of these phony terrorist plots over which it lost control,
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> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "Jordan Hayes" <jmhayes at j-o-r-d-a-n.com>
> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] No rights for Tsarnaev?
> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:32:49 -0700
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> Sean Andrews writes:
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>> I've never hear of a "public safety exception" to the Miranda rights.
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> This is a pretty good overview:
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> http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/04/dzhokhar_tsarnaev_and_miranda_rights_the_public_safety_exception_and_terrorism.html
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> The last paragraph, for Wojtek who doesn't believe this is important,
> reads:
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> "And so the FBI will surely ask 19-year-old Tsarnaev anything it sees
> fit. Not just what law enforcement needs to know to prevent a terrorist
> threat and keep the public safe but anything else it deemed related to
> "valuable and timely intelligence." Couldn't that be just about anything
> about Tsarnaev's life, or his family, given that his alleged accomplice
> was his older brother (killed in a shootout with police)? There won't be
> a public uproar. Whatever the FBI learns will be secret: We won't know
> how far the interrogation went. And besides, no one is crying over the
> rights of the young man who is accused of killing innocent people,
> helping his brother set off bombs that were loaded to maim, and
> terrorizing Boston Thursday night and Friday. But the next time you read
> about an abusive interrogation, or a wrongful conviction that resulted
> from a false confession, think about why we have Miranda in the first
> place. It's to stop law enforcement authorities from committing abuses.
> Because when they can make their own rules, sometime, somewhere, they
> inevitably will."
>
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