[lbo-talk] Graber on consensus

[Wojtek S]

Just to follow up on this - are you suggesting that islamism is better
for the poor third world masses than neolibarlism?  If so, I beg to
differ.  I am pretty sure that these masses would be far better off
under neoliberalism than under anything that islamism will ever
produce.  It is the Old Man's "British rule in India" argument redux.
Capitalism with all its faults still represented progress vis a vis
feudalism and rural idiocy it created.  By the same logic,
neoliberalism represents progress vis a vis catonism
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catonism) glorified by Islamist
demagogues.

Wojtek

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:33 PM,  <123hop at comcast.net> wrote:
> But the means of accomplishing things has a lot to do with the kind of world we wind up living in.
>
> I'd also submit that your reluctant acceptance of neo-liberalism might have something to do with your relatively privileged position in a neoliberal world. Not relative to Bill Gates, but relative to at least half the population.
>
> Joanna
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> These are classic symptoms of being a cult, and reading Graeber only
> confirms that this tendency is well and alive. Quite frankly, I think
> these "movements" are intellectually bankrupt and have nothing to
> offer - zip, zilch, nada, zero - except their participatory rituals.
> They are nothing but secular versions of religious cults that are a
> dime a dozen in this "post-modern" world. While nothing forces me to
> be a part of these cults, this nonetheless leaves me sad because it
> makes it obvious that there is no viable counterweight to the
> neoliberal hegemony - at least one that I can identify with. The only
> moderately viable (in the sense getting popular support) counterweight
> is Islamist fundamentalism - but having to choose between the two, I'd
> take neoliberalism.
>
>
> --
> Wojtek
>
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