[lbo-talk] Where is the left argument for gun rights?

Wojtek S wsoko52 at gmail.com
Thu May 9 13:28:06 PDT 2013


Shane, Do you really believe that Bubbas and their guns is what stops the armed agents of the US state from imposing control on the 99%?

How then do you explain the fact that far better trained and equipped fighting forces in places like Iraq or Afghanistan are not very successful at that?

Wojtek Sent from my Droid On May 9, 2013 3:38 PM, "Shane Mage" <shmage at pipeline.com> wrote:


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> On May 9, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Marv Gandall wrote:
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>> ...My argument that circumstances have changed - that the demand for arms
>> is now coming from the right rather than from the constituencies we
>> support, who now favour gun control - doesn't mean that I'm obliged, by
>> extension, to support restrictions on our rights to assemble, to speak and
>> publish freely, to organize trade unions and political parties, and to
>> exercise other democratic rights. I don't have the slightest problem
>> reconciling my unconditional support for these hard-won rights with my
>> endorsement of efforts by liberal and radical Americans to place curbs on
>> access to weapons...
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> If I recall correctly, we were recently talking about the "99%" vs. the
> "one%," and about the effective, coordinated, repression carried out by
> the armed agents of the "one%." The "liberal Americans" (there are, alas,
> very few radical Americans) who provide the constituency for the Bloombergs
> and Obamas are very much of the "one%," while the defenders of gun rights
> are almost entirely of the "99%" (the one-percenters don't need to own guns
> because they have the whole repressive apparatus of the State, which they
> own, at their disposal). So which constituency do "we support?" Do you
> think you have a clearer perception of the class interests at issue than
> Bloomberg does?
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> Shane Mage
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> "Thunderbolt steers all things." Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64
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