Wojtek Sent from my Droid On May 16, 2013 2:53 PM, "Carrol Cox" <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
> > Yes. I think it was a failure....except for the arms suppliers.
> >
> > But we do have a military presence in the Middle East, it's called
> Israel.
> >
> > Joanna
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> No. This is a fundamental misunderstanding of world capital in the
> neoliberal age. Less abstractly, it oversimplifies the relations between
> Israel & U.S. policy. That relationship is _not_, of course, the frequently
> claimed subordination of the U.S. to Israel: the tail does not wag the dog.
> But NEITHER is Israel (to maintain the metaphor) a very obedient and
> dependable tail. It is a gross exaggeration to speak of it as constituting
> a "U.S. presence" in the Middle East.
>
> And I don't see how you can consider the Iraq invasion a failure, unless
> you are judging from some merely ideal criterion of a good war and a good
> peace. The present situation in Iraq is as good for world capital as can be
> realistically expected. Were such a condition remotely possible to achieve
> in Iran there would be U.S. troops in Tehran right now.
>
> Carrol
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