Maybe a rule is in order: Count to ten before you decide to bring Kant into a discussion.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 8:56 PM, JOANNA A. <123hop at comcast.net> wrote:
> yes...that's what I meant, that intellectuals almost never identify w
> working class. The whole point of being an intellectual, it seems, was to
> distance yourself from working class. ....to claim nobility on the basis of
> intelligence and culture.
>
> J
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> On 2013-11-07, at 2:53 PM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Joanna: "when did intellectuals as a whole ever identify themselves with
> > people who work for a living? It seems to me that's mostly what they have
> > always done"
> >
> > [WS:] When tenured sinecures were scarce?
>
> There's no evidence Intellectuals "as a whole" ever identified with other
> than the propertied classes. Throughout history only a minority of
> intellectuals, typically considered as "traitors to their class", have
> identified with the poor and powerless - their relative numbers rising and
> falling in accordance with the intensity of the class struggles around
> them. The leftist intelligentsia, for example, was more prominent in the
> 30's and 60's than in periods of declining class conflict like the 50's and
> recent decades, but in no case did dissenting intellectuals ever represent
> a majority of those who thought and wrote systematically about social and
> political issues.
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