[lbo-talk] A feast of Google math

Eleutherios eleutherios.rizooto at gmail.com
Sat Nov 9 18:26:19 PST 2013


A good rule of thumb is to distrust anything that phones home the mother ship (or anywhere else). No data retention is also desirable on the server ("cloud") side (and retention should be modulated on the user side determined by convenience vs security/privacy needs).

This came out awhile back about Google Ads. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57606178-83/nsa-tracks-google-ads-to-find-tor-users/

startpage.com and ixquick.com do seem to mean well so I don't intend to malign them. Another rule of thumb is to only trust a source that runs https by default.

On 01-Oct-12 15:34, knowknot at mindspring.com wrote:
> On 9/30/2012, Eleutherios replied:
>
>> Google Ads (and analytics), for starters.*
>>
>> ---------------------------------------
>> * knowknot at mindspring.com wrote:
>>
>>>> * * * [Trying to achieve some degree of anonymity]
>>> > I mostly use https://duckduckgo.com/ * * *
>>>
>>>
>>> Look at
>>> http://www.startpage.com or https://startpage.com
>>> or/and
>>> http://ixquick.com or https://ixquick.com
>
> For starters, apart from my long time preference to remain in lurker and
> so not poster mode, I hesitate to respond -- all the more so here, since
> this is basically a chacun à son goût kind of Thing and, in addition, I
> don't want to appear to be making any kind of pitch for [This] or [That]
> enterprise. HOWEVER:
>
> While Google almost certainly collects and does data analysis of search
> queries processed internally through its servers even when received from
> "anonymized" proxies, one who believes the ixquick.com and startpage.com
> representations ought conclude, probably correctly, that Google
> Analytics, as such, is essentially disabled for searches done via those
> web sites because, among their other privacy maintenance attempts, they
> by default encrypt search queries transmitted from their proxy sites, do
> not collect or transmit via their encrypted queries the user's IP
> address, do not record or transmit from what operating system the user
> makes a query, do not record or transmit what browser or other query
> enabling software is used, do not record the search terms or results of
> the search, incidentally also do not display paid/advertising responses
> to a search query that Google would display for an identical search via
> that source, and (as far as I and colleagues have been able to
> determine) the Google Analytics js detritus stored on a user's
> computer when GA is used does not appear when either/both these search
> facilities are used. But, as I say, chacun à son goût . . . .



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