[lbo-talk] Bruce Bartlett: " I think it is only a matter of time before the Tea Party morphs into unapologetic fascism"

Wojtek S wsoko52 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 14 09:29:29 PST 2013


Shane: "Possible, yes. But wrong. The "Soviet system" was the clearest example of direct class rule through the state apparatus. That class, the decisive elements of the apparatus, known to itself and all others as the "nomenklatura," ruled on its own behalf and, after the curtains came down on its "socialist" farce, continued to rule over all important parts of the empire: from the KGB colonel in the Kremlin to the Aliev dynasty in Baku to the various despots of the various Korruptistans. The Stalinist class system moved so smoothly from state-capitalism to state-monopoly-capitalism that some people, a quarter-century later and three-quarter-century after the definitive overthrow of the proletarian regime established by the November revolution, still call the FSU a "workers' state!"

[WS:] How is it wrong fro chrissake? What you described is the nearly total dissociation of the state apparatus from society and its class structure, as I had argued, but instead of state autonomy you decided to call it a separate class. That is a purely semantic argument to me.

Whether the Soviet nomenklatura is a class is academic hair splitting - it is not a class from a marxist perspective but it is a class from a weberian perspective. But whatever term we use, the fact remains that the state apparatus was autonomous from the socio-economic classes in Russia - the working class, the peasant class and the intelligentsia (which is a class in the weberian and neo-marxist sense cf. Bourdieu). That is all that there is to it. Let's call a spade a spade.

-- Wojtek

"An anarchist is a neoliberal without money."



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