[lbo-talk] Why aren't the poor storming the barricades?

andie_nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 14 08:06:36 PST 2014


People have been waiting for a revolutionary class to emerge in North America for over 150 years.

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> On Feb 14, 2014, at 7:26 AM, Charles Brown <cb31450 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Victor Friedlander
> <victor at kfar-hanassi.org.il> wrote:
>> The whole issue is a red herring. A social revolution occurs only when
>> there emerges a revolutionary class, that is a class which has achieved
>> economic and political power by virtue of having become essential to the
>> perpetuation of the state, yet is subject to the rule of an anachronistic
>> ruling class.
>
> ^^^^^
> CB: There's a comment worth contemplating
>
> ^^^^^
>
>
> Without such a class that can mobilize and organize
>> widespread dissatisfaction with the ruling class and focus the anger,
>> design and direct the seizure of the political and economic institutions of
>> the community, and form a viable alternative to the ancien régime there can
>> be no revolution.
>>
>> Incidentally, storming the barricades is neither rare, nor is it an
>> effective a revolutionary tactic. As an inchoate expression of rage and
>> disgust it is easily coopted or otherwise overcame by even the most
>> moribund of ruling classes.
>>
>>
>>> On 13 February 2014 03:36, Charles Brown <cb31450 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "The worse the better " is false most of the time.
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The storming the castle argument is based om a false premise that the
>>>> worsening of the conditions sparks a revolt. In reality, the opposite is
>>>> true. it is the betterment of social conditions that spark a revolt.
>>>> Better conditions increase people's expectations and when those higher
>>>> expectations are not being met, people are more likely to turn to
>>>> alternatives. If the conditions worsen, retrenchment is the normal
>>>> behavior. Economists never understood human psychology.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Wojtek
>>>>
>>>> "An anarchist is a neoliberal without money."
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