[lbo-talk] Question for Tom Walker (and whoever else feels like answering)

Wojtek S wsoko52 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 8 04:37:18 PST 2014


I agree with Carroll. The problem is weak labor, not some political shysters. We certainly witnessed a decline in labor militancy in most Western countries although it seems on the raise in developing ones. Having said that, labor militancy is not created equal. There are limits to direct labor action and trade unionism. There must be a political party representing labor, by which I mean a socialist party rather than British style Labour. It does not mean unions are unimportant, au contraire they are necessary. But they are not enough. Wojtek On Jan 7, 2014 10:47 PM, "Carrol Cox" <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:


> The "People" you refer to are not legitimate participants in any serious
> discussion, and confronting them theoretically is pointless. They are mere
> reflections (I think this is one of the realties which vulgar Marxism can
> adequately deal with) of the capitalist offensive which has dominated the
> u.s. (in fact the world) for the last 40 years or so. The only response to
> such vulgarity and intellectual irrelevance is a mass working class
> movement
> which simply abandons both electoral politics and legal machinery. (For
> example, labor to become serious must return to some variety of the IWW
> practice of refusing to sign contracts.)
>
> Carrol
>
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> In my experience when someone spends a lot of time falsely accusing people
> of stuff it is a good sign they are guilty of it themselves. So, Are people
> who claim raising the minimum wage contributes to unemployment guilty of
> the lump of labor fallacy?,
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