[lbo-talk] [Pen-l] YPG defends beseiged Kolbani

[Carrol Cox]

If there were even 5 or 6 reasonably large (not huge, just a few thousand) groups that talked to each other and could often agree roughly on major issues, and if such a loose coalition could at least respond in various ways to events such as Ferguson or Gaza, it would hardly be a  discipline left such as some still dream. But it would make some sense to speak of their actions and events as representative of  "A Left." Marv's "circles" are ridiculous.

We need a coherent left; until one arises capital remains unfettered, and even events that trigger wide outrage won't trigger real resistance.

It's vicious nonsense to think that mere passive opinion   can affect state or corporate practice.

Carrol

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Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] [Pen-l] YPG defends beseiged Kolbani

And while we can haggle over the existence or non-existence of a "left,"
it's not like there's a big sector inclined to support armed struggles
overseas. How many will even openly back the Palestinian resistance, on
which most in left circles are far more knowledgeable?

(I gather the answer is more than in 2012, and a lot more than in
2008-2009, but still not many in the scheme of things.)

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Robert Naiman <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>
wrote:

I think the main dynamics are:
>
> 1) the new war has fallen off the front page, replaced by Ebola, gay
> marriage, elections.
> 2) what's happening with the Syrian Kurds isn't useful to any big
> configuration in the U.S. It's not useful to the USG because the situation
> points up the fact that key U.S. ally Turkey is playing a double game. It's
> not useful to the anti-war movement because the key complaint of the Kurds
> is that the U.S. isn't doing more to attack ISIS in their area.
> 3) Congress is in recess. If Congress were in session now, there would
> probably be some squawking about what's happening to the Syrian Kurds and
> that would generate some press coverage.
>

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