[lbo-talk] "Why I no longer hate Trans Exclusionary Feminists (TERFs’)"

Wendy Lyon wendy.lyon at gmail.com
Thu May 26 10:44:33 PDT 2016


Well, so what? Women are people, last time I checked. And I still see plenty of references to "women" on that Core Competencies page.

As someone who actually talks to a lot of transgender people, anyway, as opposed to getting my information about them from openly anti-trans sites like Feminist Current, I can't say I've ever heard them make a big issue about this. Most of them seem to have far more pressing things to worry about, like finding jobs and dealing with their family members and trying to not get killed by people with Charles's level of obsession about them every time they have to go to the bathroom.

On 26 May 2016 at 16:07, Eric Romsted <eromsted at verizon.net> wrote:
> Saying MANA will no longer refer to pregnant women is perhaps over-broad but they have removed many references to women in their documents. Compare current Core Competencies with a few years ago in wayback machine.
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> http://mana.org/about-us/core-competencies
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> vs
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> https://web.archive.org/web/20140102032121/http://mana.org/about-us/core-competencies
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> Example-
> "Women have within themselves the innate biological wisdom to give birth."
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> has been changed to
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> "The biological wisdom to give birth is innate, it has been held throughout time, and is experienced across cultures by all pregnant people."
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 26, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Wendy Lyon <wendy.lyon at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On 26 May 2016 at 15:22, Charles Brown <cb31450 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Some trans activists are even claiming it is “cissexist” or “transmisogynist” just to refer to pregnant women as women. The Midwives Association of North America (MANA) will no longer use the term “pregnant woman” because they have been informed this is transphobic.
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>>> CB: this is goddamn outrageous.
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>> And it took me almost three seconds to find out it isn't true.
>> http://mana.org/
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