[lbo-talk] [pen-l] Fw: [ei] Green Party filing for recount

Ralph Johansen mdriscollrj at charter.net
Fri Nov 25 18:57:23 PST 2016


-----Original Message----- From:pen-l at mail.csuchico.edu <http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk>[mailto:pen-l at mail.csuchico.edu <http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk>] On Behalf Of Michael Smith Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 3:21 PM To:pen-l at mail.csuchico.edu <http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk> Subject: Re: [pen-l] Fw: [ei] Green Party filing for recount

Ugh. Why on earth are the Greens trying to pull the Dems' chestnuts out of the fire for them? Sounds like they've been spooked into lesserevillism by all the liberal-schmiberal geschrei und gevalt. Disappointing.

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It was of course _inevitable_ that at some point the Republicans would win election again. That was/is the huge hole in the thought of "lesser evil" devotees: even when they "won," they were merely contributing to the victory of a worse "worse evil"! And in this election it was not even clear which candidate was the "lesser evil."

Speculation: Liberal Panic during this campaign has its foundation in the widespread identification of _any_ sort of authoritarianism with "fascism." And this would generate blindness to _other_ forms of the "police state." I've mentioned before that the requirement of ID for travel was a _serious_ loss of freedom -- and yet few of those terrified of Trump show any appreciation of the significant limitation of freedom from the 1970s on: War on Drugs; Prison System; NAFTA; control over border crossings with Mexico & Canada. These, not Trump, are the threats to "bourgeois democracy" that should be terrifying us.

Carrol

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Given options, I don't give much of a ratsass, but there's this:

2:00PM Water Cooler Thanksgiving Day 2016

<http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/11/200pm-water-cooler-thanksgiving-day-2016.html>

Posted onNovember 24, 2016 <http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/11/200pm-water-cooler-thanksgiving-day-2016.html>byLambert Strether <http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/author/lambert-strether>

/*By Lambert Strether ofCorrente.*/

Readers, this is a nearly normal-sized Water Cooler, partly because so much has been happening, but also because those few of you who held your tongue and bottled up your emotions over the Thanksgiving table deserve some sort of outlet. I’ll be taking tomorrow off. –lambert

*Politics*

2016 Post Mortem

“Why Trump Really Won Wisconsin And Pennsylvania

<https://www.buzzfeed.com/brandonfinnigan/why-trump-really-won-wisconsin-and-pennsylvania>”

[Buzzfeed

<https://www.buzzfeed.com/brandonfinnigan/why-trump-really-won-wisconsin-and-pennsylvania>].

This is from DecisionDeskHQ, “s a nonpartisan group of elections

analysts and volunteers whose job is to tabulate votes on election

day and project winners in real time, providing an alternative to

the Associated Press… We will now explain in detail how Trump’s

victories in two key states — Wisconsin and Pennsylvania — not only

suggest no evidence of fraud, but in fact track with national trends

in every conceivable way.”

This pattern — of Trump outperforming more traditional

Republican candidates in Democratic-leaning working-class

regions while performing worse than them in the GOP’s historical

educated suburban heartlands — is repeated county-by-county,

precinct-by-precinct, all across the entire Rust Belt region

from New York through to Minnesota. It happened regardless of

whether the county in question used paper ballots, optical

scanners, or electronic-only voting technology. It was an

undeniable national trend. It’s also a logical, demonstrated

explanation for the election’s outcome in these areas.

There’s lots more detail in the article. Read the whole thing. On

Wisconsin in particular:

Even if all that [fraud] happened, we would have expected to see

inexplicable results in certain regions, as outcomes that had

been “hacked” in advance ran bizarrely counter to national

trends. And yet the vote shift in Wisconsin follows that of

every other state across the entire Rust Belt (specifically

Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa, Michigan, and Minnesota).

That trend is unmistakeable: Donald Trump ignited the white

working class of these small towns, exurbs, and rural areas in a

way few prior Republican candidates ever had, in many cases

converting them from Obama voters to Trump supporters.

“US Green Party raises enough funds for Wisconsin recount” [AFP

<https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-green-party-raises-enough-funds-wisconsin-recount-142830952.html>].

I though election day was Act V — everybody dead on the stage, like

Hamlet. Turns out it was Act IV. Who knew?

“The unexpected results of the election and reported anomalies

need to be investigated before the 2016 presidential election is

certified,” Stein said on her website. “We deserve elections we

can trust.”

Never mind that not one named government official has been willing

to go on the record about the “anomolies” (just anonymous sources at

the famous 17 intelligence agencies). Never mind the authoritarian

followership needed to simple take these these agencies at their

word. And never mind that the whole Putin thing was a gaslighting on

an epic scale, and meant to gin up a war with Russian to boot.

ELECTION RECOUNT PROCEDURES (PDF) [Wisconsin.gov

<wisconsin.govhttp://elections.wi.gov/sites/default/files/publication/65/recount_manual_11_2016_pdf_17034.pdf>].

Clinton’s chief thug weighs in (which strongly suggests none of this

was organic, including the/New York Magazine/article:

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