[lbo-talk] Fundamental Difference thread from 2011

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“In community, the individual is, crucial as the prior condition for forming a community. … Every individual in the community guarantees the community; the public is a chimera, numerality is everything…” – Søren Kierkegaard, Journals ^^^^ Pace Kierkegaard, of course , for we social determinists , this is absolutely backward, fundamentally wrong. The social, the communal, the community is prior to individuals. Kierkegaard's statement is a basic maxim of bourgeois ideology, whether as existentialism, libertarianism, Social Darwinism, positivism, Reaganism, Tea Parting et al. In all , "the" individual is primary over and determinative of the social. It is an error in the understanding of the levels of organization of reality, and specifically of human life. Human culture, society and history constitute an emergent level of reality, in which the whole is more than the some of its parts, and is determinative of the parts. It is a philosophical error concerning the relationship of the whole and the parts. "The" human individual is a _social_ individual. Even Kierkegaard was; he just didn't know it. So, is the most radical libertarian; they just don't know it. Our species name should be, not homo sapiens, but homo communis. Our high level of sociality is the differentia specifica of our species.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental Difference: Libertarian Delusions of Individual Grandeur 2011-01-27 Thread c b OJim Farmelant Yes, Ronald Reagan was the master of this, but he had his predecessors too. Back in the 1950s, President Eisenhower pulled a similar act too. He was famous for his press conferences with his jumbled syntax, his confusing and confuesed answers, which aroused jeers from the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental difference : Thoreau's Robinsonade 2011-01-26 Thread c b Henry David Thoreau' Individualist Anarchism is revealed demonstratively in his famous Robinsonade adventure in _Walden Pond_. Thoreau is left politically in many practices, but his theory is shown to be at least partly in the great bourgeois individualist tradition by that book and activity.

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental Difference: Geniuses 2011-01-26 Thread c b http://www.moyak.com/papers/adorno-schoenberg-atonality.html Theodor Adorno's Theory of Music and its Social Implications by Moya K. Mason Art is mind, and mind does not at all need to feel itself obligated to the community, to society, it may not, in my view, for the sake of its freedom, its

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental Difference 2011-01-26 Thread c b http://www.moyak.com/papers/adorno-schoenberg-atonality.html Adorno's own work was influenced by Schoenberg's atonality, but in much more than his musical compositions. In Origins of Negative Dialetics, Susan Buck-Morss observes that: Schoenberg's revolution in music provided the inspiration

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental Difference: Libertarian Delusions of Individual Grandeur 2011-01-26 Thread c b Michelle Bachmann's intelligence isn't the issue. Like Palin and W, she wants to appear less educated, because that enhances her brand with a she's just one of us vitality. None of these people are stupid. You can't get where they are if you're stupid. Ad hominem attacks result from laziness. Zero

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental difference 2011-01-21 Thread c b US lawyers in establishing the legal fiction of the personhood of the corporation or the Personhood of Capital make a nice representation of the deep bourgeois ideological illusory concept of Individual Determinism. Capital is a profoundly determining _social_ institution in capitalism, natch.

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental Difference: bourgeois' myth of individual determination of society 2011-01-21 Thread c b the larger human community is predicated upon the pre-existence of individuals. With due respect, this is the crux. Social determinists r saying that the community is not predicated on pre-existing , independent, isolated individuals, or “selves”. Rather the opposite: Society preexists the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental Difference: Personhood of Capital 2011-01-21 Thread c b (The Myth of the Wizard of Oz) [lbo-talk] Mommy, can a corporation be embarrassed? Eubulides paraconsistent at comcast.net [Mereological mayhem for methodological individualism] http://www.propublica.org/blog/item/as-citizens-united-turns-1-u.s.-supreme-court-considers-corporate-personhoo As

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental Difference: Mommy, can a corporation be embarrassed? 2011-01-21 Thread c b , Eubulides wrote: [Mereological mayhem for methodological individualism] ^^^ CB: Yes indeed US lawyers in establishing the legal fiction of the personhood of the corporation or the Personhood of Capital make a nice representation of the deep bourgeois ideological mythical concept of

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental difference: Menu of choices presented to a free will is socially determined 2011-01-21 Thread c b Bad faith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_faith_%28existentialism%29 A critical claim in existentialist thought is that individuals are always free to make choices and guide their lives towards their own chosen goal or project. The claim holds that individuals cannot escape this freedom, even

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental difference: Menu of choices presented to a free will is socially determined 2011-01-21 Thread c b In other words: Men make their own history, but they do not make it just as they please; they do not make it under circumstances chosen by themselves, but under circumstances directly encountered, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all the dead generations weighs like a

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental difference: personal responsibility 2011-01-21 Thread c b http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ressentiment Sartre Jean-Paul Sartre used the term bad faith to describe a highly similar phenomenon of blaming one's own failure on external factors and therefore denying responsibility for oneself. The major difference between the two is that Sartre presupposed the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental difference: Ressentiment 2011-01-21 Thread c b http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ressentiment Ressentiment Question book-new.svg This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding reliable references. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (November 2007) In philosophy and

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental difference : objectivity of human consciousness. 2011-01-21 Thread c b http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being_and_Nothingness Analysis While a prisoner of war in 1940/1941 Sartre read Martin Heidegger's Being and Time, an ontological investigation through the lens and method of Husserlian phenomenology (Husserl was Heidegger's teacher). Reading Being and Time initiated

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental difference: Caudwell critique's bourgeois concept of individual liberty 2011-01-07 Thread c b http://www.marxists.org/archive/caudwell/index.htm Christopher Caudwell 1938 Liberty A study in bourgeois illusion Source: “Studies in a Dying Culture,” first published 1938. Republished 1977 in “The Concept of Freedom,” Lawrence Wishart, London. Transcribed: by Dominic Tweedie; Proofed and

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental difference: Estranged Labour has individual life as its purpose; self-interested individual, etc. 2011-01-07 Thread c b The role of the existential sensibility in one's overall world view and trajectory is vital to understand, as well as the appropriation of the metaphysical/epistemological baggage to support one's projects. The modern period, which of course witnesses the scientific revolution, the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental difference: Estranged Labour has individual life as its purpose 2011-01-06 Thread c b Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844. Karl Marx Estranged Labour http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/labour.htm In estranging from man (1) nature, and (2) himself, his own active functions, his life activity, estranged labor estranges the species from man. It

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental difference 2011-01-05 Thread c b “In community, the individual is, crucial as the prior condition for forming a community. … Every individual in the community guarantees the community; the public is a chimera, numerality is everything…” – Søren Kierkegaard, Journals Pace Kierkegaard, of course , for we social determinists

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental difference 2011-01-05 Thread Ralph Dumain This is, however, a superficial analysis of what this is all about. There is, as far as I can tell, a qualitative difference between a quasi-existentialist position like the Biblical narrative of Job and the existentialist sensibility we find from the 19th century on. I imagine one could find

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Fundamental difference 2011-01-05 Thread c b On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Ralph Dumain wrote: This is, however, a superficial analysis of what this is all about. There is, as far as I can tell, a qualitative difference between a quasi-existentialist position like the Biblical narrative of Job and the existentialist sensibility we

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