UAW convention

Michael Eisenscher meisenscher at
Thu Jul 9 09:30:19 PDT 1998

It's comforting to know that I have finally broken into the ranks of the incoherent, a small but growing constituency on this and other lists. Incoherents of the world unite, we have nothing to lose but our meaning!


At 12:46 PM 7/8/98 EDT, eae01 at wrote:
>Don't overestimate yourself. I think Doug was referring to the incoherence
>of your note, not its content, whatever that might have been. I dare say
>he spoke for many of us. Your follow up is almost as befuddling, but your
>point is on the verge of coming through. You seem to have valid things to
>say, but yu need to put more care into your writing. Edwin
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:57:27 -0700 (PDT)
>To: lbo-talk at, lbo-talk at
>From: Michael Eisenscher <meisenscher at>
>Subject: Re: UAW convention
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>Perhaps my effort at sarcasm eluded you, or you took reference to LBO as
>somehow critical. Let me put it bluntly. The article you quoted reflects a
>kind of uncritical and vacuous reportage that passes for analysis that is
>fairly common in the pages of the PWW when it comes to the subject of labor
>or unions (especially union leaders). I merely suggested how a parallel
>treatment of political coverage might appear to make that point. I pointed,
>by contrast, to the value I DO place on what appears in the pages of LBO.
>Is that now clear? If not, then maybe I should just keep my hands in my
>pockets the next time I am tempted to respond too "creatively."
>At 11:09 AM 7/8/98 -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
>>Michael Eisenscher wrote:
>>>["....The American electorate seemed puzzled why a system deemed to be
>>>superior to any other in the world would continue to produce such blatant
>>>corruption, inequality, scandal, malfeasance, racism, sexism, consumer debt,
>>>homelessness....but they indicated their general confidence in the direction
>>>the country was taking by reelecting Bill Clinton, the leadership of
>>>Congress, and virtually any other incumbent whose palms had been properly
>>>greased and who had provided value in return during their previous
>>>term...."] Now there's incisive, critical journalism at its best,
>>>reflecting a deep understanding of how labor institutions operate, how union
>>>leadership perpetuates its reign, and how democracy works on the floor of
>>>the UAW convention! With reportage like this, who needs the Wall St.
>>>Journal? Well, at least I still have my subscription to LBO!
>>Do you have a point here?

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