Gingrich falls

Charles Brown CharlesB at CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us
Fri Nov 13 11:33:46 PST 1998


On market socialism, I can some small business as private and all of the basic means of production as publically owned.

Diane Elson's essay on this is important because it uses a feminist critique to modify the focus from production to production and reproduction of labor power, placing domestic reproduction of labor power on a par with production of use values.

I can't recall whether Justin Schwartz's market socialist ideas are derived in this way.

Charles Brown


>From the market to the Marxit


>>> Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> 11/07 3:16 PM >>>
Chris Burford wrote:


>As far as this thread here is concerned, I quoted from the end of Doug's
>book on Wall Street, which talked, in pragmatic terms, about a sort of
>market socialism, a term on which Louis has heaped abuse in the past in the
>same one-sided personalised way, as at times he does to myself.
>
>Those posts will be on another computer so I cannot easily quote them. But
>I would put the much more interesting challenge to Louis: does he accept
>that the prospects for a revolution in the near future in the US are slim?
>Does he agree that there has to be movement towards a sort of "market
>socialism"?

My quasi-endorsement of a kind of market socialism at the end of Wall Street was based on the sense that you can't get to Utopia just by wishing it into existence; you have to build on the world that exists. And that means, to use Diane Elson's phrase, socializing the market. Still, I'm not happy with the idea except as a transition to something else. But I'm just a babe in the woods on these issues; I've got a pile of stuff I've been meaning to read, which I'll get to as soon as I figure out this discourse thing. Get back to me in a coupla years, Chris.

Doug



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