I haven't reentered this thread since my original posting because, frankly, I think most movies today are so stupid that they're not worth arguing over *at all.* I believe that Jonathan noted in his original posting that "there's a war on," and that, IMO, is what should really be the dominant focus of discussion on this list right now.
My faith in the Web has not been deepened by this war. I thought the WWW would prove a great tool for mobilizing opposition to the war, but it's clear the folks who run NATO have been very successful keeping public opinion on their side, antiwar cyberistic outrage notwithstanding.
Carl Remick