>Max and Seth both ask what I'm for.
>
>Socialisation of the means of production - what G Lukacs called
>'societal self-determination'.
I agree with the objective. But Doug is right, this needs fleshing out to become meaningful.
>The difficulty with the left is that it is caught between two
>alternatives that are both defined by capitalist society: the free
>market and the state. Both are specific to capitalism, both need to be
>overcome.
Ahem! Some of us have been arguing this for quite a while.
>In the here and now, the immediate problem facing any kind of social
>change is a culture of low expectations and the internalisation of
>victimhood.
A psychological explanation which may be part of the overall explanation, but surely a more important factor is the objective fact that there is no agreed social alternative. Not so much low expectations or victimhood, as lacking a reason to pursue social change in the first place. Which takes us back to the objective above. -- Lew