Ian
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> [mailto:owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com]On Behalf Of ssherman
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 7:14 AM
> To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> Subject: RE: Is the Coalition Falling Apart?
>
>
> Has anyone considered whether there is any room for African
> Americans in this
> emergent labor-environmental coalition? I mean as a political force, not
> impugning the character of any protester or groups of protesters.
> Its just
> the coalition that defined the great society era Democratic party
> left was
> labor/blacks. Now that the left (again, as political force, not petty
> sectarians) seems to finally be preparing to redefine itself, is
> it planning
> to go this time without them? I'm not sure I'm convinced that a green
> coalition is as potent as a rainbow.
>
> Steven Sherman
>
> >===== Original Message From lbo-talk at lists.panix.com =====
> >Carrol Cox wrote:
> >>
> >> It sort of looks like it is.
> >>
> >> Item: I would take silence on the part of Chuck0 and Eric to
> >> indicate that their answer is "No" to the Question: Will anarchists
> >> unite with non-anarchists?
> >
> >My silence is simply that, silence. I also shut up because i sent out to
> >many messages to this list the other day. Plus, I've been overwhelmed
> >with archiving N30 stuff.
> >
> >Yes, anarchists will unite with non-anarchists. It depends on the issue.
> >We build our coalitions carefully. The best example of anarchists
> >working with a broad range of non-anarchists has been the successful
> >micropower radio movement.
> >
> >> Item: Two groups of anarchists have declared each other
> >> incompatible and apparently will no longer work with each other.
> >
> >They have? If anything, I'm seeing the various anarchist factions
> >pulling together more in the wake of Seattle. There's a tremendous
> >upsurge in solidarity and interest in working together. The anarchists
> >who were skeptical about supporting the Eugenies after last June are now
> >standing in solidarity with them, even if they still disagree with them
> >on some issues.
> >
> >> Item: According to a number of recent posts on pen-l major parts
> >> of the coalition (Labor and dogmatic supporters of labor) have already
> >> decided that the next target will be China.
> >
> >You mean the parts of the coalition that fancy themselves the leaders.
> >Whatever, they are free to do what they want. I just hope they
> >understand that there were 4-6000 anarchists on the streets of Seattle
> >on November 30th. Some of them may support that policy, but many will
> >not. We're not interested in tinkering with the WTO. That's Bill
> >Clinton's job. ;-)
> >
> >> Item: Someone recently mentioned planning for demonstrations at
> >> the Republican National Convention.
> >
> >Something may happen around that. Maybe the Dems too. I've asked friends
> >why we should bother. Why give two dying parties any respect?
> >
> >Well, my big idea was to hold a wake for the Republican Party.
> >
> >> The question seems to be not whether the Seattle Coalition will
> >> hold together but whether in the next several years it will be possible
> >> to build any other coalition half as big. The Seattle Coalition is
> >> already
> >> unravelling.
> >
> >As well it should. It was put together for one event, but that doesn't
> >mean that the that the movement will go away. There is alot of energy
> >out there to keep up the pressure.
> >
> >Oh, when you say "Seattle Coalition" you ignore the fact that N30
> >involved actions around the world.
> >
> >> I would like to point out for the record that those plunging ahead
> >> dogmatically on their own, ignoring all other coalition participants,
> >> are everyone but marxists.
> >
> >Are you aware that N30 was organized by a decentralized network, not a
> >legible organization? Why should people and groups involved in this
> >network--which was put together mainly to do the N30 actions--be
> >expected to have to decide things collectively now? Are you familiar
> >with how affinity groups work and why they exist? Are you familiar with
> >pixieing?
> >
> >--
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> >
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