Anarchism vs. Marxism-Leninism: Marxism-Leninism wins !

[Alexandre Fenelon]

At 10:06 22/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
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>>>> Alexandre Fenelon <sfenelon at africanet.com.br> 12/21/99 05:24PM >>>
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>CB: Well, capitalism hasn't been democratic up until now either.  With all
the genocide,  racism, fascism, imperialism, male supremacy, McCarthyism,
economic dictatorship of the history of capitalism, socialism didn't do
worse than capitalism from the standpoint of democracy. Elections do not
define democracy. And even elections are completely corrupt in most
capitalist countries in the sense that money rules elections more and more
efficiently.  

I agree with you partially. The capitalist democracy is corrupt and class ruled.
But socialist countries had no democracy at all, and I think democracy is
essential
for socialism works. Trotsky, in his history of Russian Revolution, defined
socialism
as "an economy planified to fulfill human necessities". Well, people must be
allowed
to say what are those necessities, otherwise, socialism will end in
bureaucratic rule.
This only can happens in a democracy, with free press (but the press cannot be
owned by bosses) and political pluralism. I wonder if non socialist parties
could
be allowed. Probably not in the early phases, but latter... 

                                                        Alexandre


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>CB: Yes, we need 100 Chavez's maybe, so that imperialism can't keep up with
all of them. Socialism in fact but not in name ?
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>CB                    
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 I'm not so optimistic. I think his way to change the constitution is a good
idea, but I don't know if he intends to build socialism in Venezuela.

                                Alexandre