definitions of capital, centre, periphery

Henry C.K. Liu hliu at mindspring.com
Sat Feb 20 15:51:09 PST 1999


Not being an expert on Marxism, but I always felt that marxist posture toward capital should not be inherently antagonistic. The question is one of ownership. Capital is merely a mechanical concept of eoconomic accounting. The ownership of it is however a soicio-poltical issue, becasue not only does ownership determine the flow of return on capital, it also carries the right to deploy capital as the owners see fit. And the deployment of capital over time determines the socio-economic structure of society and civilization. Even in the final stages of socialism, the role of capital in economic organization will still be indispensable. In a fundamental way, capital is the liberator of labor, because it is thriouigh the wise deployment of capital that labor can escape the drugery of production. In the past 70 years, the historical data of socialist revolutions and construction have provided ample evidence that the erroneous destruction of capital and the anihliation of capitalists merely left the liberated nations is economic shamble. The correct attitude may be to regard capital as a social resource and capital managers as workers also.

Henry C.K. Liu

Chris Burford wrote:


> I'll try to answer the question. The concept of the centralisation and
> concentration of capital can be extended from capitalist companies to whole
> capitalist economies if you take the wider definition of capital, variable
> as well as constant capital, into account.
>
> It is clear that the balance of flows favours the accumulation of this
> wider definition including an educated workforce with suggicient purchasing
> power for a mass sophisticated market, in the metropolitan imperialist
> countries.
>
> Does that do violence to either marxism or the empirical data?
>
> Chris Burford
>
> London
>
> At 07:29 19/02/99 +0000, you wrote:
> >At 16:28 18/02/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >>Then Japan is the mother of centers and NY is the mother of the periphery.
> >>A better defintion would that centers are places that benefit more from
> >>capital that passes through it.
> >>
> >>Henry
> >>
> >>Doug Henwood wrote:
> >>
> >>> "By definition, the center is the provider of capital, the periphery the
> >>> recipient." - George Soros, The Crisis of Global Capitalism, p. 120
> >
> >My understanding is that from a marxist point of view, the tendency for the
> >concentration and centralisation of capital is a long term tendency. I
> >have assumed that applies to societies and not just companies.
> >
> >How could the definitions above be made more compatible with that
> perspective?
> >
> >Chris Burford
> >
> >London
> >
> >



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