Alice down under in Wonder

Charles Brown CharlesB at CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us
Fri Oct 8 10:42:29 PDT 1999



>>> kelley <oudies at flash.net> 10/08/99 01:06PM >>
and next time you point out racism on my part chaz, i'll happily tell you to fuck off like you've just done to my concern that you consistently treat women on this list in a condescending fashion: me, frances, kirsten, ange have all been subjected to that kind of patronizing crap and i think i have every right in the world to point it out.

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Charles: You have always told me to fuck off when I bring up racism, so that wouldn't be anything new.

You see there's a problem with your claiming that I condescend to you because you are a women, because I am always sort of responding to your "ethnocentric" condescescion toward me. So there is sort of a stalemate on that. I can't really trust that you don't have an ulterior motive in your claims. As a matter of fact , I am sure of it. Plus, I show posts exchanges to other people, including women, and you don't come up with a good score.

My check on it is Black women find me very non-male supremacist, so I gotta go with their opinion. As a matter of fact White women I know consider me non-sexist, so I gotta believe you are kinda hoaxing it here.

As a matter of fact, I am a lot more respectful in the way I talk to you than the way you talk to me. So, I'd say you are the one exhibiting the supremacy and condescension. You can write all the stuff you want like the below, but that doesn't make it true, and I am disregarding it as false.

CB

cc: Shaniece, Jill Nelson, Mildred Gaddis, and eight other women.

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oh i guess workers of the west unite only means workers with big enough dicks

and don't start in on how you're a feminist. big whoop. so's doug. but if doug said something stupid or treated women as if they were stupid or not quite good enough for him to converse with, then i'd call him on it.

so i'll ask again: in what sense does a marxist [and particular marxist] analysis matter when it came to kosovo and political praxis and policies supported.


>When I see a post of yours I am not interested in , I just don't read the
whole thing. I don't mind if you don't read all of my posts and delete them.
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>CB
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>>>> kelley <oudies at flash.net> 10/08/99 11:52AM >>>
><yawn> frankly, i think it's disgusting that both of you have your posts
>from that long ago. woah! toO organized and anal retentive for my blood.
>uuummm. well....whatevA.
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>anyway, a serious question about this bizzo at the heart of your debate.
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>WHO GIVES A RAT'S ASS?!
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>no, no, no.
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>this is serious. what on earth does it matter? which is to say, let's
>move this off into a different terrain coz i'd like to hear about the
>specifics of how one's analysis of kosovo would make a difference as to
>what sort of political practices pursued, policies advocated.
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>coz if this is just about who has a bigger hard on for marx or who has a
>straighter or harder one than spare
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