Alice down under in Wonder

Tom Lehman TLEHMAN at lor.net
Fri Oct 8 21:00:31 PDT 1999


Your quoting me out of context on the Slavophobic behavior of American elites!

Btw, how many troops do we have stationed in the former Yugoslavia now?

TL

kelley wrote:


> yoshie, it has to do with the way four women have been treated on this
> list. i don't care about m-fem and i don't care about charles "real" life
> [a stupid distinction]. i generally enjoy what chaz has to say, though i
> don't always agree and i enjoy our phil of social science discussions. but
> one of the first things that charles ever did was call me, "my sister" in
> french -- in a condescending enough manner to elicit fraces's ire, who he
> then treated pretty rudely too. look it up in the archives. oct/nov of
> last year.
>
> again, i'm not saying that charles is an awful person or anything of the
> sort. however, you'll both agree that institutionalized sexism is a
> problem, that it exists on this list, and everyone her perpetuates it in
> some form or another. and, i think you'll also agree that pointing out
> when i think a man has belittled a woman b/c she's a woman is just as
> acceptable as pointing out racist comments --and i've done that before when
> tom lehman has called people polish suitcases and babushkas. again,
> compare the posts w/ doug yesterday which were on the same order--of
> rehashing an old argument. charles did not dismiss doug in the way he
> dismissed angela. he was quite obsequious.



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