Anti Depressants?...

[kelley]

At 09:02 AM 8/30/00 -1000, Stephen E Philion wrote:
>Carrol writes:
>As Doug's comment brings out, Reese exults in his freedom from illness
>just as the white racist exults in his/her white skin.
>
>
>Steve writes:
>Actually, rest assured that Reese is only able to exult in an *assumed*
>freedom from illness. For all he knows, at this moment he is in the early
>stages of an uncurable disease...he simply has no way of actually
>knowing whether he is free from disease, regardless of how many tests
>he should take to find out...the irony of such exultation
>is that it is utterly unscientific, even less than shooting Craps...
>
>Steve

man, are you the poster boy for the word obtuse now?  the point was whether 
such things as small d depression should be treated with drugs.  both of 
you seemed to miss reese's acknowledgement that he was talking past carrol 
b/c he was talking about small d depression and its over medicalization and 
treatment with drugs that may be dangerously over proscribed.  believe it 
or not, it is a new idea to a lot of people to learn that there is such a 
thing (possibly) as the kind of Depression that carrol, maria, and dace 
have been speaking of.

and that was exactly what joanna was saying as well, but got treated to the 
Grumpy Guss     Rant.  yes, a lot of us have a pull yourself up and of it 
attitude re small d depression.  i do.  and i've been small d depressed to 
the point of barely leaving my home after my run in with the sizzlean last 
year.   my mother told me to get off my butt after a couple of 
months.  lots of people said, quit whining.  like carrol said about 
himself:  they were right. it was getting there.  but i could afford to 
stay on my butt because i had some cash in the bank and teach so have 
summers off.  so, i --just like carrol'sfriend-- was depressed and 
wallowing in it because i could afford to be.  (no dear people i'm not 
saying that depression/Depression is an affliction of those who can afford it)

  reese was haughtily pronouncing that his choice is to treat with 
exercise, not unlike the poster boy for Dick was suggesting that he treated 
his problem with a different diet.  ferfucksake!  snub people for being 
assholes regarding haughty attitudes that may well exude from the position 
of privilege of never having been there but realize two things.

1.  having "been there" is no guarantee for otherwise we'd see a uniformity 
in response to the experience of, say, blackness with regard to how to 
respond to racism.

and

2. try to work a little harder at actually understanding what someone is 
saying.  remember:  we are all sooooooo much smarter than people who don't 
share our politics, so we can do much better than they can.  right?

kelley