> On the contrary, I took your views on whiteness seriously because they were
> interesting and suggestive, although I thought, not quite right.
ok...
But AIDS denial is like holocaust denial; it's lunacy.
there are thousands of very serious-minded scientist and other thoughtful, caring people who are AIDS dissenters precisely because they care about preserving and improving the quality of human life. please don't lump them in with holocaust deniers. let's struggle over this matter based on the facts.
>
> The problem when someone like in power like Mbeki engages in it is that
> affects people;
yes, of course...
your ideas merely express your own views.
no, not quite. as an agitator, i wonder about how these matters can be incorporated into a larger poltical vies and communicated on the streets...
Mbeki's being
> off-the-wall has nothing to do with his being African;
fair enough. but exactly why should he know better, as you say?
I am sure I don't
> know why he refuses to accept what every responsible scientist and doctor
> things,
no, not every responsible scientist and doctor buys into the standard theory. there are thousands of dissenting scientist and doctors.
and all the other African leaders as well.
but that does not prove anything. a lot of them share consensus on a lot of things that both you and i wish they did not.
>
> Your response here reinforcing my sense that your are engaging in radical
> chic: what's the matter, white people cannot criticize black Africans if
> they say foolish and (in his case) dangerous things, that's racism?
nope, not at all. i was commenting on your rather arrogant tone. you seemed to have no need to debate me on this matter, just to denounce me as being in the same class as faith healers and such. i guess if my opinions on AIDS put me in that class, then that puts mbeki in that class, too. you cannot simply call somebody foolish because their ideas seem so outrageous. you are an intellectual. do better.
I think
> that George W. Bush's doubts about global warming are equally foolish and
> probably more pernicious, since W. looks to be the next Prez. I
only equally foolish if you think there are absolutely no solid grounds on which to question the standard AIDS theory.
t is
> terrible, in Mbeki's case, where the leadership of what is after all a
> victorious national liberation effort who is, dammit, supposed to know
> better, lets down millions of desperately ill poor people.
again, why should he know better?
> In any case, you are a white boy too, so that particular epithet gets us
> nowhere.
uh, no...i assure you, i'm quite black, as the rules of the race game go...
It's a case of the chalk calling the snow white
like i said, not quite.
chris niles
. --jks
>
> >
> > > Mo, Leo, it's very useful. Chris has now revealed himself to be in the
> >class
> > > of people who believe in flying saucers at Roswell, Christian science
> > > healing, and the virgin birth.
> >
> >and you have just revealed yourself to be a prick.
> >
> >Now we don't have to bother with taking his
> > > views seriously any more.
> >
> >you never did so where is the problem?
> >
> > The problem is when Mbeki or people in power who
> > > ought to know better endorse this pernicious rubbish about AIDS.
> >
> >what happened, mbeki is too stupid to know any better? or maybe he's just a
> >silly african easily swayed by conspiracy theories? isn't it terrible when
> >people in power who are supposed to know better let you down?
> >
> >you go, white boy...
> >
> >chris niles
> >
> >
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