2)Some Non-Pomo's have given better articulation of those problems than Pomo's...Some pomo's want to dump the very categories he describes them in; ie the desire to go "beyond" realism/antirealism, subject/object, essence/invariance/differentiation/contingency....hence the politics of talking past one another...
Ian
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> [mailto:owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com]On Behalf Of Ken Hanly
> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 5:51 PM
> To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> Subject: Re: Polo wars [the horse and rider are down now, beaten badly]
>
>
> So what is your point. Points 1 to 3 are common to some non-pomos
> as well as
> pomos?
> Is this supposed to show that pomos do not share those
> characteristics as Justin
> claims?
> Cheers, Ken Hanly
>
> Lisa & Ian Murray wrote:
>
> > Justin,
> >
> > I think we haggled a bit over these before you joined us. See below
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > >>What the pomos share, like these other tendencies,
> > is common preoccupations and themes. In the pomo case, these include:
> >
> > 1) antifoundationalism, the idea that all knowledge is
> theoretiucal and none
> > is basic or given; it all depends on your subject position;
> >
> > 2) antirealism, that there is no extralinguistic reality apart
> from the way
> > we talk about it;
> >
> > 3) antiessentialism, the idea that all natures are wholoy
> constructed, there
> > are no real property that all members of a group objectivelly
> share apart
> > from the way theya re conceived; the denial of objective interests
> > ====
> >
> > A)antifoundationalism is older than pomo.
> >
> > B)antirealism is simply agnostic/extremely skeptical about what if any
> > "type[s]" of structures exist apart from the way we dislose them to
> > ourselves and each other via language and machines/tools. Is space-time
> > particles or waves or both when we're not investigating
> microworlds? Is the
> > air transparent to a fly?
> >
> > C)antiessentialism is simply a close cousin to B. Identity[ies] can be
> > shattered/reconfigured--learned...
> >
> > All is flux...form from flux form to flux.
> >
> > Ian
>
>
>