As I made very, VERY clear, I had no problem with your factoid. I of course didn't mind your obscenity either. I'm all for obscenities. And I think you're being pretty disingenuous to pretend you don't know what I'm talking about, but, in case you sincerely don't: in order to get find your joke funny we'd have to buy your assumption that Latin Americans as a group are over-sexed. While that's not necessarily a negative stereotype, it is, as most 3rd graders could tell you, a stereotype. One of the many reasons it was troubling is that plenty of people really do think that poverty is caused by a lack of discipline, & restraint, etc. therefore poor people deserve to be poor. I'd guess that's part of the reason that those stereotypes about Southern Hemisphere -- or African-American, to take another example -- hypersexuality persist.
Liza
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>From: Tom Lehman <uswa12 at Lorainccc.edu>
>To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>Subject: Re: UNITE Negotiates Seniority for Illegals (even afterdeportation)
>Date: Thu, Mar 9, 2000, 4:51 PM
>
>Liza--The birds and the bees are kind of common to everyone are they not?
>The birth
>and fertility rates in all of Latino America are very high. Nicaragua is no
>slouch at
>this either, 44% of the population is under 14 years old! Hondorus and
>Guatamala are
>in this heat too. Any good almanac will give you the stats.
>
>I should have said f***in' good time.
>
>Tom
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>Hey, I'm no blue-nose.
>
>Tom Lehman wrote:
>
>> Liza Featherstone wrote:
>>
>> > Is it just me, or is this kind of a racial slur? Not the factoid, which is
>> > kind of interesting, but the commentary
>> >
>> > sorry if this sounds schoolmistressy,
>> >
>> > Liza
>> >
>> > ----------
>> > >From: Tom Lehman <uswa12 at Lorainccc.edu>
>> > >To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>> > >Subject: Re: UNITE Negotiates Seniority for Illegals (even after deportation)
>> > >Date: Thu, Mar 9, 2000, 8:48 AM
>> > >
>> >
>> > >I came across an interesting little factoid. The population of El Salvador,
>> > >during the Marxist insurrection of the 1980's in El Salvador, doubled. The
>> > >population doubled!
>> > >
>> > >Sounds like they are having a fuckin' good time down there in Latino America.
>> > >:o)
>> > >
>> > >Maybe Brad should re-vise his stats.
>> > >
>> > >Tom Lehman
>> > >
>> > >Nathan Newman wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> >From today's NYT, a really progressive approach to undocumented workers,
>> > >> actually putting protections in the union contract.
>> > >>
>> > >> March 9, 2000
>> > >> I.N.S. Looks the Other Way on Illegal Immigrant Labor
>> > >> NY TIMES
>> > >>
>> > >> The commercial laundry industry in Chicago, where Mr. Silva works, clearly
>> > >> benefits from the Immigration Service's live-and-let-work approach. Thirty
>> > >> companies wash and iron the city's hospital and restaurant linens, hotel
>> > >> sheets and towels, and factory uniforms. Half of their 2,800 employees are
>> > >> illegal immigrants, mainly Hispanics, according to Unite, the union that has
>> > >> organized most of them in recent months.
>> > >>
>> > >> Last fall, Unite negotiated contracts that recognized the illegal status of
>> > >> some workers, and shielded them. One clause requires an employer to bar an
>> > >> I.N.S. raid unless the agents have a search warrant. And a company must
>> > >> notify the union if it gets wind of a coming raid.
>> > >>
>> > >> "Sometimes I did not want to go to work," Mr. Silva said. "I saw reports on
>> > >> TV of immigration raids and people being led away and I worried that would
>> > >> happen to me. Now the union contract is reassuring, and I no longer see
>> > >> raids on television."
>> > >>
>> > >> A third clause states that when former employees are rehired with new
>> > >> papers -- even new names -- after their original documents are found to be
>> > >> false, they retain their seniority and resume their old pay level.
>> > >>
>> > >> Union scale goes as high as $8.75 an hour.
>> > >
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