Hail the Hitler-Stalin pact!

Yoshie Furuhashi furuhashi.1 at osu.edu
Tue Nov 14 16:27:25 PST 2000



>Doug Henwood wrote:
>
>> Charles Brown wrote:
>>
>> > Soviet-German non-Agression Pact is and was eminently supportable.
>> >It helped saved the world from Nazism.
>>
>> Wow. You don't see this argument made every day. Reading it is a bit
>> like walking out the door and seeing a mastodon dining on a dodo.
>
>I have not close knowledge of what went on within the SU between the
>signing of the pact and the German invasion. But if that period helped at
>all, then the claim that the treaty was crucial to the war against
>fascism would be almost a truism. The burden of proof would I think be on
>those that wanted to claim one of the following: (a) that the U.S. would
>have defeated German even if the SU had collapsed, (b) that the SU would
>have been able to defeat Germany in any case or (c) that the SU made no
>use of the time it saved. In any case, the events of 1937-41 were complex
>enough so that it is silly to say one particular judgment is obvious.
>Until someone gives strong reasons to the contrary, I would say Charles
>is probably right.
>
>Carrol

Hasn't there been a debate on this just recently in a thread titled "Allies against fascism?"? Anyway, on things Soviet, I agree with John Mage on everything he has said here. Hell, I endorse in advance everything he'll say on the subject + how he will say it (for I trust his style as well).

Yoshie



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