>Messsage du 29/11/2000 17:36
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>Objet : Re: renouncing whiteness?
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> Chris says:
> >
> >questions: apart from what happens when you walk out of your door in the
> >morning, do you consider yourself a member of the white race?
>
> Is it up to me?
no, politically and socially it isn't. i was asking you a question about your intellectual committments, which is why i started the sense with "apart from what happens to you when you walk out the door in the morning?" to give you a hint at what i'm looking for, i certainly don't consider myself a member of a 'black race' but i'm no fool: i know how i am seen once i walk out the door. but my intellectual understanding of who i am does indeed shape and inform my political committments.
I mean, if I applied for a job and said, don't treat me as
> if I were white, an employer would probbaly think this was a sleazy attempt
> to get an affirmative action advantage. If I told a Black person, "I'm not
> white," they'd look at me funny. "I think race meaningless and I renounce
> the priviliges society confers on fair skinned persons of European descent."
> "OK, guy, give me your fancy college degrees and resume, then." I mean, it's
> silly to think that whiteness is a matter of what I consider myself to be.
> There's an objective aspect to this that you are missing.
>
> >would you be offended if some serious, non-moralizing political folk (black
> >or white or non-white) incorporated anti-white themes into their struggle?
> >would you shy away from that struggle or embrace it?
>
> Depends, the Nation of Islam says that white people are devils.
please read: i said serious. you know damn well that i am not talking about folks who consider white-skinned blue-eyed people devils so give it a rest.
If it says it hates white people, it probably doesn't mean that it
> hates white domination.
i never said anything about anybody hating anybody. YOU did. fasicnating. how did you turn my theoretical anti-white movement (obviously based on much that i have written here) into a hate movement? you should think about that for a moment...
It probably means that it thinks that that
> domination is because the white race is evil and inherently oppressioon.
i think the white race is inherently oppressive and there seems to be plenty of evidence for that fact? how come you don't?
I
> can understand why people of color might think that, but I can't join in.
>
why not? are they wrong? misguided? what? what would you tell "people of color" to do instead? why wouldn't some "white" folks think of the white race as inherently oppresive?
> --jks
>
> > > James Heartfield
> > >
> >
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