Lisa & Ian Murray wrote:
> JO'C>>
>
> This kind of thing is exactly why we internationalists, socialists,
> secularists, etc., need an independent organization so that we can propose
> independent solutions.
> *******
> Got $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ?
Huh? I guess Jim was ambiguous here. I thought he meant we need a party -- a political organization. Earlier in your post you write: ". . .if we play our cards right." The metaphor is grossly misleading. A single mind determines the play of cards -- and the thrust of Jim's post seems to me to be the point that "we" don't exist to play "our" cards since we lack the political form(s) which make possible a "we" acting in some coherent way.
I suspect that no such organization is possible at present (we don't even know what it should look like).
Carrol