geeks

jf noonan jfn1 at msc.com
Tue Sep 19 07:23:42 PDT 2000


On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, jeradonah wrote:


>
> by himself (and apparently by people like kelley), quite
> seriously. raymond has really become a fsm pimp, trying to
> lord himself over it and control how it is seen. but are
> you asking how the people who code apache or linux or samba,
> et al, view him? they don't. they don't consider him at
> all. you can't pimp what you can't sell...

This is crap. This is the guy that got Netscape to do the Open Source thang. This guy is greatly in demand as a speaker to all sorts of geek/ open source/ linux what-have-you things. 'His' cyberlibertarianism is all over the place and I don't mean just political places like cypherpunks or politech either.

In supposedly purely technical places like bsdi-users ((dick wave alert: I've been on that list since BSD/OS was 0.3.3)) I have NEVER seen a political comment that didn't assume that the Free Market(tm) wasn't an unalloyed good. I have never seen a 'liberal' political comment, never mind a socialist one.) This same thing is true of NANOG (one exception -- there is a Chomsky fan over there), smartlist/procmail, and basically any technical list I've ever been on where politics comes up. I will grant that many geeks don't think about politics much, but when they do most will spew some esr /John Gilmore/ Tim May bullshit.

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Joseph Noonan Houston, TX jfn1 at msc.com



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