"Mirror, Mirror On The Wall Who Is The Most Right-Wing Of All?"
Michael Pugliese
debsian at pacbell.net
Thu Aug 2 09:22:27 PDT 2001
Re:Zionism, yeda, yeda..
And you run interference for them. When (and where) will attachment to
right wing ideology end?
- -Brad Mayer
Heh, at least Brad Meyer, didn't say, your attachment to RW ideology..."
or
say like Proyect that I'm a , "pimp, prostitute and punk, "
(talk about decentered, contradictory identity formations! Punk as in prison
slang, not punk as in the Sex Pistols, methinks, Lou[py] meant...)
and , "killed Rosa and Karl and Julius and Ethel, " or like Mine Doyren,
"Michael, must be an Agent Of American Intelligence!" on wsn list.
To go back to my more serious mode though, others over the years in
political meetings that have expressed frustration at mainstream media
representations of foreign conflcts, and I've rejoindered with an argument
like what Michael Kazin gave in reviewing Chomsky & Herman 2 vols. of which
the the first vol. was, "The Washington Connection and Third World Fascism,
" in Socialist Review at the time it was published. Briefly, that while
their "propaganda model" gets at the major material and ideological
set of influences that generate and reproduce narrative frames that reflect
and reproduce dominent political economic and geo-strategic interests of the
Empire, I don't think that the model (just like simplified versions of
Frankfurtish Kultur Industry thesis or the Partisan Review authors like
Dwight Macdonald as reflected in the classic anthology on Mass Culture ed.
by Bernard Rosenberg in the 50's published by the "Free Press of Gencoe,
IL.) can get at the stresses and points of contradiction which break through
when ruling class consensus is riven in such periods as the late 60's over
Vietnam, or today, when, there is not a Unified Front of support for Israeli
repression
within the policy planning foreign policy elites, think tankdom, and the
major newspapers like the Post and LAt and NYT. When there is, as in the
Vietnam example, substantial movement from below (masses in the street) and
division within the liberal sectors of Democratic Party opinion, which break
towards "dovish" positions ("cut and run" "Negotiations Now") in an attempt
to forestall deepening of mass radicalization from below which moves beyond
blathering about "mistakes" or, "If Only The Czar or LBJ Knew..." I don't
have as much faith in analysis which
paints in pictures redolent of imagery of Tools and such.
Don't expect that Brad or Johanna or others firmly in the "anti-Zionist"
camp here, will like what Max or Nathan or I might call nuance. Expect
they'll call it self-delusion!
And, btw, looking forward to Yoshie's presentation of when and why and
when certain national lberation movements are reflective of
true working class interests and when not. It was easy for me to support the
FDR-FMLN or FSLN
in the 80's, or as a very young kid in 1970 to look at admiration at a
hippie waving the NLF flag on the steps of the US Capitol at a March of the
Mobe, but, as I get older, my skepticism about "Leninist" cant grows,
sometimes pushing me towards "autonomist" marxist positions, other time
towards, a sigh, resigned left socdemrevisionist p.o.v., other times towards
a neo-Trot position, other times towards Rosa's rejection of nationalism.
Michael Pugliese, Devil's Advocate for Social Imperialist Confusionism and
Petty-Bourgeois Diversionism!
(Member of the Second a half International, Otto Bauer Dept.
Descendent of Eduard Benstein.)
;-(
;-) Think Dr. Lukacs and Dr. Gramsci
have a pill for that?
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