>>Doug says:
>>
>>>Why is "Africa" the whole, and not Nigerians, or Zulus, or
>>>whatever sub-group you want to name?
>>
>>Economy of scale, for instance. The bigger the better, as long as
>>the territory is solidly unified & well governed. The logic of
>>capitalist development gave an impetus toward the European Union.
>>Why not the African Union?
>
>I'm all for that. But that wasn't the issue - it was kicking the
>white people out of Africa.
At 7:48 PM -0700 7/19/01, Art McGee wrote:
>What if Black people kicked all the white people out of
>Africa? Would that be bad? It wouldn't be to me, but I
>want to know what you white folks think.
You are treating "what if" questions as if they were concrete political proposals, Doug. The point of asking Art's "what if" questions, in my opinion, is to see if whites are ready to admit that blacks possess practical reason -- i.e., moral freedom to choose their own political maxim, be it good, bad, or ugly -- & to act accordingly, whether whites like it or not.
When women have the right to abortion -- i.e., moral freedom to choose or not to choose to bring pregnancy to term -- manners in which some women exercise their right may disturb, nay even appall, men & even other women. Nonetheless, unless women enjoy this right, we'll continue to be oppressed, categorically marked as "less free than men." The same goes for the right to self-determination.
>I wondered why black/white, why all of Africa (and is that just
>sub-Saharan, or North Africa too?) I recall the Hutus and the Tutsis
>tried to kick each other out of Rwanda, with rather horrid
>consequences.
One way we may abolish "tribal" (= sub-national) conflicts is to work toward the establishment of solid nation-states (through which "tribes" either get completely assimilated within a "nation" or enjoy autonomy & equal rights within a state) & from there toward Pan-Africanism. That it takes economic development to do either goes without saying.
Yoshie
P.S. If & when Africans get around to bringing about a kick-ass socialist revolution, racist & anti-socialist whites will immediately leave on their own, so it won't be necessary for blacks to kick them out, & whites who will insist on remaining will be trustworthy ones loyal to the revolution. That's what happened to the Cuban Revolution. Look at the complexion of right-wing Cubans in Miami.