>>> seamus2001 at home.com 08/09/01 08:51PM >>>
Hell, getting people to agree on what is ethical is hard enough. Another question too, is whether we're smart enough to achieve socialism/communism yet; maybe we're just not smart enough right now in an analogous way that people like Galileo couldn't see quantum theory or computers were gonna result from their efforts. As my friend Hana Petros says "for now, the struggle is the alternative". A cup of tea and solidarity....
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CB: In the case of socialism/communism , I think the role active ruling class opposition in the forms of biggest wars ever, fascism, McCarthyism, Gramscian hegmonic operations, myriad of other anti-communist methods has blocked mass consciousness more than general lack of smartness, as contrasted with barriers to advancing physics.
On the struggle as the thing, in the early 1900's there had never even been socialist revolutions anywhere, and thus the general sense of the realistic possibility of socialist revolution probably was not higher than today. Yet , Lenin counselled in opposition to Bernstein's " the movement is everything, the final goal nothing" that "without revolutionary theory , there can be no revolutionary movement" In other words, even today, when it seems the best we can do is just "struggle", we may better strive to make a big plan and strategize