>James Heartfield:
>> ...
>> As to physics, I was not aware that it had abandoned its ambition to
>> describe an objective world outside subjective investigation - only that
>> Heisenberg had raised some difficulties in the way.
>
>That ambition seems unattainable, since the subjectivities
>investigating are themselves part of the world they are trying
>to describe. A mentation-free world is by definition
>unimaginable.
Surely a world must have existed long before the appearance of human beings (or any other creatures capable of subjective investigations of objects), and a world will continue to exist after the disappearance of human beings (and other creatures capable of subjective investigations of objects) as well. -- Yoshie
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