> Gordon says:
>>
>> That ambition seems unattainable, since the subjectivities
>> investigating are themselves part of the world they are trying
>> to describe. A mentation-free world is by definition
>> unimaginable.
>
> Surely a world must have existed long before the appearance of human
> beings (or any other creatures capable of subjective investigations of
> objects), and a world will continue to exist after the disappearance of
> human beings (and other creatures capable of subjective investigations
> of objects) as well.
>
such a world might have existed and might exist in the future but it might still be unimaginable.
--ravi