>At 04:41 PM 2/15/01 -1000, Reese wrote:
>>At 03:43 PM 2/15/01 +0000, Justin Schwartz wrote:
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>> >I believe the joke is: capitalism is the exploitation of man by man, and
>> >communism is just the reverse,
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>>No, that's not it.
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>yes, it is. that was what you implied:
Initially, I had just finished reading Hayek's claim (Serfdom) that the right and the left define freedom differently, I was seeking to confirm or refute his claim, I had no intention of arguing the point either then, or the other day.
>you chose to insert your
>conservative-libertarian notions on a lefty list
busted, I have done this.
>and insist that they
>*must* be fooling themselves and/or others if they can't possibly see that
>their view of the world simply has to be unfree and, ultimately,
>unequal.
I question.
>in other words, you're asking people to defend the radical left to you.
defend, explain. what the breadbasket of americana is taught/led to believe and what the realities are, are not always synonymous.
>ditto matt.
I cannot speak to matt's activities.
>maybe you should both read the intro to the list
>again, because that's not what this space is for. lefties have to defend
>their friggin' views everywhere and doug created this space so it could be
>free of that nonsense. there's enough of it among us, ferchrisakes.
My experiences while lurking on lou's marxism list tends to confirm this.
>kelley
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