~J
At 05:56 04-01-01, you wrote:
>kelley wrote:
>
>>
>>>I know folks on LBO love wallowing in the hopelessness of it all, as Carroll
>>>describes it, but there are going to be five hundred separate political
>>>fights over the next four years.
>>
>>
>>specifically, that would be the hopelessness of working within the 
>>democratic party. i for, one, do not think anything is hopeless and do 
>>not wallow in it and i resent that you'd suggest that i or anyone else 
>>here, but carrol, does.  name one person, otherwise, who says it's all 
>>hopeless?
>
>Actually you could argue that the true correct Hopeless position is to 
>work within the Dem party, since it implies a fatalistic concession that 
>nothing can ever really change - the best we can do is some adjustment at 
>the margins.
>
>Doug
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