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>>I know folks on LBO love wallowing in the hopelessness of it all, as Carroll
>>describes it, but there are going to be five hundred separate political
>>fights over the next four years.
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>specifically, that would be the hopelessness of working within the
>democratic party. i for, one, do not think anything is hopeless and
>do not wallow in it and i resent that you'd suggest that i or anyone
>else here, but carrol, does. name one person, otherwise, who says
>it's all hopeless?
Actually you could argue that the true correct Hopeless position is to work within the Dem party, since it implies a fatalistic concession that nothing can ever really change - the best we can do is some adjustment at the margins.
Doug