Ken Hanly
----- Original Message ----- From: ravi narayan <gadfly at home.com> To: <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 10:10 AM Subject: Re: DJ Freddy J Spins the Phat Trax
> Dennis Robert Redmond wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Ken Hanly wrote:
> >
> >>Well perhaps what you say makes a bit more sense than the original but I
> >>really dont appreciate the cleverness in deliberately writing in such a
way
> >>that only an elite sub-group of academics could possibly understand it.
> >>
> >
> > Elite scholars, my ass, all the people in litcrit and culture studies
have
> > been downsized to hell and back for decades. The world-system is
> > *complicated*: 6 billion people, hundreds of countries, thousands of
> > languages, a vast and complex tapestry of class struggle, etc. One needs
> > concepts capable of taking on the complexity of the total system, is
all,
> > and Jameson is delivering them. If you have questions about concepts,
then
> > ask them, but blanket condemnations of intellectuals for being
> > intellectuals won't wash.
> >
>
>
> a simple question, if i may, from someone who recently joined this
> list and is a bit unaware of the history: is "DJ Freddy J"
> critiquing pomo or is he one of them? neither the original post
> (which i believe was a review of a recent performance (?) by him)
> nor the ensuing debates have added clarity (perhaps fittingly,
> given the subject? ;-)). i find this debate interesting,
> particularly since the person who started this posted a quote
> (from "DJ Freddy J"?) on postmodernism (logic of modern consumer
> capitalism or some such) that was exactly the same as the one that
>
> i had reproduced from "the baffler"'s web site, in my question
>
> regarding "the baffler", and i am intrigued by the factional
> attacks on postmodernism, literary criticism, [relativist]
> philosophy of science etc., within the left.
>
> the original (perhaps mistaken) impression was that "DJ Freddy J"
> was critical of postmodern [and related] thinkers and brad delong
> and ken hanley's posts seemed to point out the presence in the
> post (quoting "DJ Freddy J") of the very denseness that it was
> trying to criticize. but the response above suggests the opposite!
>
> --ravi
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