zionism

[Forstater, Mathew]

was going to say the same thing, Max, only differently. if we were
talking about men in a patriarchal system, poor whites under white
supremacy, or your average small business owner under capitalism, we
would have subtle analyses of the ideological preconceptions, false
consciousness, etc etc but with zionism we are supposed to believe that
unless every individual explictly pronounced an understanding of
imperialism they are not part of a larger colonial project.

come on bubeleh, wake up and smell the schmaltz!  whoever said
"Israel/Zionism/Palestine is one subject where otherwise intelligent
people suddenly become as stupid as a doorknob" had it exactly right.
(not talking about Maxie here, but the general phenomenon).

-----Original Message-----
From: Carrol Cox
To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
Sent: 7/13/01 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: zionism

Max Sawicky wrote:
> 
> Herzl was all you say, but I think it's wrong
> to reduce zionism the movement, a diverse and
> evolving thing, to Herzl's machinations.
> 
> At the simplest level, rank and file zionists
> don't know from imperialism.  They support a
> homeland.  Connected, but with a big difference.
>

This tends to be true of the general population of any criminal state --
Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, the ordinary Democratic voter in
the U.S. But that is not in the least an excuse for the crime. Certainly
it cannot be any excuse for the Settlers, everyone of whom deserves
prison more than 95% of the U.S. prison population.

Carrol