Fw: Radosh replies to Leo

Michael Pugliese debsian at pacbell.net
Sat Jul 14 12:10:41 PDT 2001


Heh, I love the Left and the ex-Left, for this stuff! Between Carrol Cox, who said once on lbo-talk that Stalinism, with or without scare quotes was an invalid category of analysis or polemic (I'll dig up a book from 1937 published in the fSU, tributes to Stalin by Khruschev et.al. where they proclaim their Stalinism w/o quibbles. ~Lucky Earl Browder, as Shactman said in a debate with him in 1950 moderated by C. Wright Mills, "There but for an accident of geography, sit a corpse!~) and Radosh here who calls Leo a Stalinoid, it gets kwazy.

Leaving aside teds calling Doug a Stalinist slanderer. Jeesh. Michael Pugliese ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Radosh" <rradosh at mindspring.com> To: "com LeoCasey at aol." <LeoCasey at aol.com> Cc: "Harvey Klehr" <polshk at emory.edu>; "John Haynes" <Johnearlhaynes at home.com>; "Robert J. Lieber" <lieberr at gunet.georgetown.edu>; "David Horowitz" <dhorowitz at earthlink.net>; "Louis Menashe" <lmenashe at duke.poly.edu>; "Pugliese Michael" <debsian at pacbell.net> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 8:36 AM Subject: Book

Leo Casey:

Your Stalinoid and hostile letter confirms my entire take on the shift Left of DSA. My memory is correct. It was indeed Paul DuBrul who backed me up. I can show you plenty of blurbs and endorsements Mike made for books, writing as an intellectual, that he did not check on with DSA. THis was not a point of ego on my part. As a man of the Left, I wanted to make it clear that my reexamination of the Rosenberg case was NOT a matter of politics, but of history. Indeed, it was, as the resulting debate showed, a seminal issue for the integrity of the political Left. Mike's comment to me- and he did make it- is that all he would be willing to say is that "if asked, I'll say you're not a McCarthyite." To which I said, "thanks a lot, Mike." As for the CP, do you think I'm not aware of the Howe-Coser book. In fact, Irving's problem was his repudiation of his own thesis, and his leaning far in the other direction to apologize for and explain the antics of those who became Communists. I refer you to the printed debate between Irving and me in Dissent after my Spanish Civil War article appeared in The New Criterion. I have letters from Irving in which he even excuses Communists who supported the party line who were black, because the CP fought for civil rights. What happened to his analysis in his old book? By the way,when I was seeking a blurb, it was not yet a "major" controversy---that took place after the book's publication. Do you really mean to say that an intellectual of the Left cannot enter into a decision about a book without checking with the organization to which he belongs? Sounds like good old CP politics to me-democratic centralism-which I though democratic socialists abhorred. I also did engage in a public and printed debate with Mike right before he passed away, in the pages of Partisan Review, in which I told him I would not answer his retort to my comments, thereby giving him the final word. You can look that up for yourself. And Mike's posthumously published interview in RadicalAmerica, quite pathetic as it is, indicates his desire to even appease and grovel before the hard remnants of the far New Left. It didn't work. Their introductory comments to the interview condemn him as an unreconstrcuted social-democrat who meant well, but who failed to convince them that he was on their side. Finally, your view of what a blurb is for is ridiculous. I was trying to make it clear that men of the Left could publicly give their approval for a re-examination of a case that was central to the Stalinist Left's mythology, and endorse its findings. Their response was "ofcourse you are right, but we won't do it." To me, that is cowardice and intellectual hypocrisy, and says something about their commitment to the truth. NO wonder you and your movement are now politically and intellectual bankrupt, without any influence, and compromised beyond salvation. Good riddance!

Ron Radosh



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