Protester Shot in Head, Run Over in Genoa

[Kelley Walker]

At 08:22 AM 7/23/01 +0100, Daniel Davies wrote:
>  --- Max Sawicky <sawicky at bellatlantic.net> wrote: > I wasn't there, and I
>would not doubt
> > at all that the police instigated
> > violence, or committed the vast bulk
> > of it.  But if a mob of people were
> > throwing rocks at me I would have no
> > compunctions about shooting them.
>
>Horseshit.  If you're a riot cop, then you are provided, by the government,
>gratis, as part of your uniform, with

firstly, i think max was fairly cautious in saying that it was his reaction 
to the photos and given the info he had to work with, that was his position 
at the time.

but i wanted to ask: don't you think that the crucial difference here is 
that they were on the run, the sizzlean that is. they aren't trained to 
deal with that, losing, are they?  it seems to me that any training in 
non-lethal crowd control is going to be subsumed over reassertion of their 
authority in the form of killing people precisely in the situation they 
were in: isolated from their fellow thugs and facing a small band of 
protestors.

http://clients.loudeye.com/imc/italy/devin.ram
Death in Genoa: testimony of the photographer [audio] by olivier

kelley

p.s. i talked with someone who's been stationed in italy for years. take it 
with a grain of salt, but he told me that you don't mess around with 
carbanieri and that they've been known to terrorize people in villages 
where they run the show. can anyone else corroborate this? or was it just 
this guy's subjective interpretation>?