Fwd: Re: Katha Pollitt on Andrew Sullivan

kelley kelley at interpactinc.com
Fri Jun 1 10:18:02 PDT 2001


At 12:01 PM 6/1/01 -0500, Michael McIntyre wrote:


> >>MM: We all started trying to find good reasons for our glee at this
> juicy bit of gossip well before Katha weighed in. My personal bout with
> Schadenfreude kicked in before AS's response to the whole episode, and it
> went something like this: "I'm not surprised you fucker! I hope they
> drag your slimy Tory ass through the dirt on this! I hope people point
> at you in the street! I hope every friend you thought you had laughs
> behind your back!"

oh. but see, i don't feel like this at all. i don't feel one thing or another for sullivan. and i honestly can't imagine that he's suffering.

i didn't weigh in until i was disgusted with weiner claims about how hypocrisy isn't an issue worthy of noting. i agree with doug here: it's a good thing to learn about the double edged nature of the phenom. that sullivan stands for. it's, for me, a way to point out broader issues and problems with his political position and, like it or not, sullivan's desire for barebacking and his legitimation of it is extremely political in a variety of ways.


> Shit, Kelley, that's still what I think, but I'm not going to pretend
> that it's a principled political stand. AS is a prick, now a lot more
> people are going to know that he's a prick, and he's going to suffer a
> little. Works for me.

again, i guess i'm cold hearted bitch who can't empathize, but it never occured to me that he's suffering!


> >>MM: For my money, AS can reify and glorify penetration sex as the only
> "real" sex to his heart's (or his glutes') content, and that's still a
> step up from his high-church choir-boy tory-bastard
> you-queers-are-ruining-it-for-the-rest-of-us moralizing.

ok, we differ. i happen to think that the glorification of penetration sex as the only "real" sex is part and parcel of sexism. and i happen to think that his attitudes about what a burden sex is when you have to use protection a good place to point that out.


>Michael McIntyre



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