patriarchy redux?

Michael Perelman michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Mon Jun 4 15:42:54 PDT 2001


Schnitzler's original should still be fun, at least as I recall it. I don't think that sex was a big deal for him. He was an MD. I thought that the interplay between the classes was central.

The movie was tedious.

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:


> >From: Michael Pollak (mpollak at panix.com)
> >Date: Sun Jun 03 2001 - 00:28:54 EDT
> >
> >On Thu, 31 May 2001, Christopher Rhoades Dÿkema wrote:
> >
> >> > > Imagine marrying the first person you had sex with. What a riot that
> >> > > would be . . .
> >> >
> >> > Freud makes a lot more sense when you realize he was describing a world
> >> > just like that. Acting out your feelings towards your parents big time.
> >> > And then stuck in that rut forever.
> >> >
> >> Actually young bourgeois men had sex with women of other classes before
> >> marriage to women of their own class who were sexually inexperienced.
> >
> >Sex, yes. But relationships, mainly no, precisely because of the class
> >factor you mentioned. And that's key for the acting out part. It was in
> >fact a common affliction among Freud's male patients that they could make
> >it fine with a prostitute or serving girl, but respectable women reminded
> >them of their mothers. So as far as the psycho-drama was concerned, the
> >boys were mostly still virgins too when they got married. And still
> >mostly completely ignorant where it counted.
> >
> >Michael
> >
> >__________________________________________________________________________
> >Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak at panix.com
>
> While sexism continues to plague us, at least we've left Freud's
> Vienna behind. Kubrick's _Eyes Wide Shut_ tanked, probably because
> the sexual hang-up of the petit-bourgeois man in the world of Arthur
> Schnitzler didn't strike many as compelling.
>
> Today's post-nuclear sexual fantasy revolves around homophobia &
> pedophilia -- hence the popularity of _American Beauty_ for instance.
>
> Yoshie

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