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>At 11:19 AM 3/9/01 -0500, Doug Henwood wrote:
>>Justin Schwartz wrote:
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>>>I don't know whether this is what is bugging Yoshie, but some people
>>>might want to say that classes are exploited, races are oppressed. Thts
>>>eems to be mechanical to me. Black slaves in America where both oppressed
>>>and, in the technical sense, exploited, wrongfully forced to produce
>>>surplus (value) that was appropriated by others.
>>
>>If black and women workers are paid less than would be predicted by their
>>education, occupation, and experience - and the consensus of the
>>literature is that there's a 10-15% penalty after all things are rendered
>>statistically equal - then there's quite a bit of exploitation involved.
>>
>>Doug
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>oh my god! yes, it's true that women in same occupations, with same
>experience, education, work commitment etc often get paid less than
>men. but the reason why women are paid less is explained MORE by
>occupational segregation and further segregation within
>occupations. (women tend to be food service managers, h.r. managers, etc)
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>that is NOT exploitation. if you got rid of capitalism, then it's quite
>possible that the same reasons why women end up in jobs that pay less will
>end up in the same kinds of jobs which are typically accorded less status,
>prestige, etc.
>
>why is that being ignored?
>
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