>Sometimes it's confusing whether we're talking about improving our lot
>under capitalism without systemic transformation, or systemic
>transformation itself. It'd be nice to dispense with productivity, but
>it's probably going to be with us for a while, and since it is, it'd be
>nice to dispense with some of the uglier aspects of discrimination first.
>
>Doug
okay, what on earth does this have to do with what i typed. i heard jordan say, hey, if they are paid differently maybe that's because they aren't as productive. now, why does that matter?
i'm not trying to dispense with anything. i'm pointing out that jordan's comment was about productivity and the assumption that say, women may not be as committed to work as men (gee i wonder why?) then it just goes to show you why they are less productive then men. why hell, they have their minds on their kids, they take sick days to take care of them and then go get pregnant and stuff. oh my! now, there's some structural sexism going on there no? and geewillickers, i thought you just loved it when i typed about it once during a duke out with Odisio!