----- Original Message ----- From: "James Heartfield" <Jim at heartfield.demon.co.uk> To: <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com> Cc: "Grinker" <grinker at mweb.co.za> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: Re: Guilt of Nations
> In message <200111051316.PAA27797 at brain.sn.apc.org>, Patrick Bond
> <pbond at wn.apc.org> writes
>
> > imperialist corpos and their
> >state sponsors had better be careful about propping up
> >dictatorships, because the bill will come due, just as it did for
> >Jewish Holocaust victims.
>
> I can't comment on the specifics of the South African campaigns that
> Patrick Bond and Russell Grinker debate, but this quoted here is an
> indicative error on Patrick's part.
>
> Far from being a 'blow against imperialism', the restitution made 'to
> holocaust victims' was a blow for imperialism. As so many excellent
> studies, such as Barkan's, Norman Finkelstein's and Michael Novack's
> have shown, group restitution served
>
> 1. to rehabilitate German imperialism
> 2. to give respectability to the Zionist state in Palestine
>
> The payments that Germany made from the 1950s onwards were made to the
> Israeli state, directly or indirectly financing the settlement of
> Palestinian land.
>
> Far from inhibiting German imperialism, restitution was a vital moral
> justification for its re-admittance to the imperialist club. In all of
> this, how much money was ever re-paid to holocaust survivors. Precious
> little says Norman Finkelstein. More than that, many Jews protested at
> the acceptance of German guilt money - so vigorously that Knesset
> members have to be protected by police from violent holocaust survivors.
>
> Certainly Barkan's survey of world restitution movements (and don't
> forget that Barkan is a supporter of restitution) persuades me that he
> is right when he says that restitution is not a blow against what he
> calls neo-Enlightenment values (read: the market). On the contrary, it
> is a reassertion of the norms associated with private property.
>
> So when Queen Elizabeth II apologises to the Maoris, or Bill Clinton to
> former slaves, or Tony Blair for the Irish famine, I feel sure that they
> are not seeking to overthrow imperialism, but to defend it. No need to
> fall on our knees in gratitude.
>
> --
> James Heartfield
>
>